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The completed versions of the portraits I've been working on.







Edit: Refernce images used now posted next to the portraits.

Date: 2003-05-04 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] netherfiend.livejournal.com
Very Nice! :)

Date: 2003-05-04 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgrove.livejournal.com
Thank'ee

Date: 2003-05-04 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radarig.livejournal.com
You're making progess.

The eyes and the mouths could use some work, especially dave's.

I think the main problem with dave's is that you seem to have given up on shading the muscles, and just drew a line over it.

Otherwise, you didn't really shade them enough. Too little contrast makes the faces look like clowns.

Looking over them again, I think the primary reason they're identifyable is due to the hair and the shape of the heads, which you did quite well. Also, the noses are done very nicely. A lot of people try to use lines to make the noses, when they are supposed to be almost pure shading. Very commendable.

Of course, I am scarcely one to comment. I haven't done realistic work in a long time ... but then again there's always something to be said about the degeneration and self identification of cartooning the human form. ::happy sigh:: :)

~G

Date: 2003-05-04 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgrove.livejournal.com
Yeah. The eyes especially annoy me because they're so damned lifeless... And uneven... Dave's mouth did get utterly screwed up.... But I thought I did decent on Matt's though, except for the area between the nose and mouth, it's too flat there. I used mechanical pencil's on Matt's and it was really washed out and light color-wise, that was a mistake too.

Good point on the shading. The last real-life I did was in charcoal and came out way too dark, so I think I was trying too hard not to do that again. I left the lines way to dark at all the edges too by comparison to the light shading.

I dunno about the noses, they get flat and squished-looking at the ends.

Hey, I appreciate the commentary. It helps.
*laughs* Drawing comic style really skews your way of handling the human form.

Re:

Date: 2003-05-05 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radarig.livejournal.com
Heh, I'm a little biased. I think that its very hard to *overshade*, but I also think there's a happy medium between overshading and undershading one should try to hit.

If that makes any sense at all. XD

I dunno ... not sure how you draw, but since I've picked up using geometricals to draw (There's a term for that. Don't know it, but just know that it exists XD) I'd think I'd pick up human form well enough. Who knows, I need to try. Saying one thing and doing another is entirely different.

Though it would be cool to draw with you one day, to get a scope on how other people go about it. :)

~G

Date: 2003-05-09 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgrove.livejournal.com
I use geometricals for my comic art, but I almost completely free-hand my RL. Partially because I only sarted using geometricals in the past 2 years.

Heh.
Yes, we shpuld draw together sometime, you, me and Michelle.

contrast goood

Date: 2003-05-05 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just a thought:
Contrast is great. You say that you used to draw too darkly, shade too much. It's not a bad thing by far. The main problem I have with these is they're both very flat. If you threw some contrast in there, they could be amazing. And don't overlook the negative space... It needs something back there if you're going to keep the subject so flat. It really breaks up the composition, and the subjects just kind of get washed out in it.

Other than that, your hair in both drawings is great. I can't draw it to save my life :)

Re: to the mysterious art advisor

Date: 2003-05-06 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfgrove.livejournal.com
Mmm... Thanks for the advice.
I'll try to do better next time.
Experiment and improve, y'know?
Defineately too flat. But where do you mean for me to add contrast? I'm a little unclear on it. I know I need to improve the shadowing overall, and the shirts didn't get much effort to begin with...

*laughs* Even I like how the hair turned out, and that's saying something. I always degrade my stuff the worst of anyone.

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